There is always another minority

A small city in Romania.

A Roma mother with her two daughters is shopping at the supermarket. All of them in colorful traditional dresses, with long skirts and headscarves in red, yellow, purple, blue, green. More colors than the wall of flags in front of the United Nations building.

The non-Roma Romanians, whose politicians had tried a few years ago to officially rename the Roma as gypsies because “the bad treatment and negative discrimination of the Roma could otherwise unjustifiably extend to Romanians”, look askance at the Roma women, critically eyeing their dresses, although these are not an uncommon sight in Târgu Mureș.

I display my friendly and genuine disadvantaged-minorities-deserve-friendliness-too smile.

Then an apparently Muslim girl with a tightly bound headscarf appears from the back of the supermarket and walks past the Roma family. One after the other, the three Roma women turn around, staring after the girl, their heads turned almost 180 degrees, with open eyes and mouths, as if they had spotted an extraterrestrial. The mother explains something to her daughters, of which I only understand the word “hijab”.

(Auf Deutsch.)

About Andreas Moser

Travelling the world and writing about it. I have degrees in law and philosophy, but I'd much rather be a journalist, a spy or a hobo.
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16 Responses to There is always another minority

  1. Pingback: Es gibt immer noch eine andere Minderheit | Der reisende Reporter

  2. djgarcia94 says:

    Interestingly Romania has a fairly old Islamic presence. http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Islam_in_Romania

  3. Iosif Chișinevschi says:

    “The non-Roma Romanians, whose politicians had tried a few years ago to officially rename the Roma as gypsies because “the bad treatment and negative discrimination of the Roma could otherwise unjustifiably extend to Romanians”, look askance at the Roma women, critically eyeing their dresses, although these are not an uncommon sight in Târgu Mureș.”

    What a shitty paragraph!

    Where is the evidence that Gypsies are discriminated in Romania? Officially they cannot be discriminated because otherwise Romanian would be an Apartheid state like Israel is and therefore would have never been admitted in the EU, Nato, etc.

    They could be informally discriminated, true. But where is the OBJECTIVE evidence for this either? And how Romania would be different than Germany in this regard?

    Anyway, isn’t it RACIST to consider Romanians “racists” ;-)? Think about it Andreas, (for once at least)! Do you, by any chance, consider Romanians inferior to Germans…?

    However, the real reason why Romania is not admitted in Schengen and why there was such a big commotion in Britain after the work restrictions were lifted in 2014 for Romanians is that Westerners are afraid of a big influx of Romanians Gypsies! So who is the racist now? What is the problem with (Roma)nians?

    (BTW, in Germany rude people pretend not to make the distinction between Romanians and Zigeuners and consider Romania a sort of big Zigeunerlager. Now who are the racists?)

    Therefore, to paraphrase an old German saying: “Die Zigeuners sind unser Unglück!”

    “I display my friendly and genuine disadvantaged-minorities-deserve-friendliness-too smile.”

    You mean, the idiotic-look-smile? LOL. I like your humour, Andreas!

    “The mother explains something to her daughters, of which I only understand the word “hijab”.”

    No, it is more likely that they assessed whether she was an easy victim for their aggressive begging or pickpocketing.

    It will take some time until you will really understand Romania, Andreas. Be patient. And never overlook the wisdom of the elders. If you do you will come to accept that wisdom in the end…the hard way .

    • Accusing someone whom you don’t know of being an aggressive beggar or pickpocket based on their ethnicity is exactly the racism I was talking about. The comments to most of my blog posts confirm the content of the posts themselves. Your choice of “pen names” does the rest.

      • Iosif Chișinevschi says:

        If I said “Jews are intelligent” would you agree? You may say, it is a fact. All right. Even though plenty of Jews are schmucks.

        What about “African-Americans on average have an IQ score of 80”? This also a fact. Check!

        To say that most pickpocketing and mugging crimes in Romania are done by Gypsies could be factually true or not. This information would be very useful to foreigner like you coming to Romania… And I tell you, ALL foreigners who are not IDIOTS, regardless of their political persuasions and race, KNOW about Gypsies (hic niger est) and AVOID them just to have no trouble!

        Concerning my choice of pen names, I am pretty sure that they enlarged greatly your knowledge of Jews… – a people the you are very fond of (Why? Repenting the sins of your ancestors? )

        There was a time when Jews were proud of people like: Lev Bronshtein, Rosa Luxemburg, Karl Liebknecht, Béla Kohn, Mátyás Rosenfeld, Hannah Rabinsohn, Iosif Roitman, Lazar Kaganovich, etc, etc, etc…How times have changed…

        If you want to study further the subject of Jews I would recommend professor Kevin B. MacDonald’s masterful trilogy:

        A People that Shall Dwell Alone (1994)

        Separation and Its Discontents (1998)

        The Culture of Critique (1998)

        Sapere aude!

    • No, I don’t think that Germans are superior to Romanians. And I also don’t think that I ever said or wrote anything that could be interpreted in such a way.

      • Iosif Chișinevschi says:

        This paragraph

        “The non-Roma Romanians, whose politicians had tried a few years ago to officially rename the Roma as gypsies because “the bad treatment and negative discrimination of the Roma could otherwise unjustifiably extend to Romanians”, look askance at the Roma women, critically eyeing their dresses, although these are not an uncommon sight in Târgu Mureș.”

        is anti-Romanian. It suggests that ALL Romanians + all “their” politicians are bulling the “poor” Gypsies. Moreover it perpetuates the common canard (a word very much used by Jews…) in Western Europe that Gypsies are treated badly in Romania.

        So, if anti-Semitism is wrong why shouldn’t anti-Romanianism (oops, there is no special word for this blatant phenomenon…) be wrong too…?

    • Of course there can be official discrimination within the EU, that’s why EU member states lose cases before the European Court of Human Rights. Not even Germany, as a long-standing EU member state is an exception to this.

      • Iosif Chișinevschi says:

        Precisely. That is why in Romania, a EU member, in contrast to the Asiatic Israel, there is no official, state endorsed, discrimination against ethnic minorities.

        BTW, that offers an opportunity to “lawyers” like you who instead of circling the earth aimlessly running away from their boredom and wasting the money earned by other people to defend the “discriminated” Romanian Gypsies at the European Court of Human Rights and not only make some good money for themselves but hep the “poor” Gypsies too…

    • Israel is not an apartheid state, but that’s more of a subject for a separate article, in particular as I will go to Israel in two months anyway.

      • Iosif Chișinevschi says:

        To tell you the truth, I don’t give a damn on what Israel is. if all Romanian Jews emigrated to Israel and STAYED there I would have no problem with Israel – an alien Asiatic country.

        I share brilliant Schopenhauer (have you read anything of him, LOL?) views on Jews:

        “This desirable result [their total assimilation], however, will be frustrated if the emancipation of the Jews is carried to the point of their obtaining political rights, and thus an interest in the administration and government of Christian countries. For then they will be and remain Jews really only con amore. Justice demands that they should enjoy with others equal civil rights; but to concede to them a share in the running of the State is absurd. They are and remain a FOREIGN ORIENTAL RACE, and so must always be regarded merely as domiciled foreigners.”

        J.G. Fichte put it even more eloquently (and chillingly still actual!) in “Beitrag zur Berichtigung der Urteile des Publikums über die französische Revolution” (“Contribution to the Correction of the Public’s Judgments Regarding the French Revolution”) from which I don’t dare quoting…

    • The “wisdom of the elders” is hard to accept when one knows how Romania was like until 1989, when these elders had their say.

      Also, I am already 39, so soon there won’t be too many people left who are much older than me. :-)

      • Iosif Chișinevschi says:

        “how Romania was like until 1989, when these elders had their say.”

        The communist regimes were a Russian occupation. Their governments, quisling governments.

        Anyway, regardless of whether we can call the Romanian communist regime “Romanian” or not, it was for sure a dictatorship.

        “Also, I am already 39, so soon there won’t be too many people left who are much older than me. :-)”

        Ah, is that what THEY call “progress” ? Good grief! Then Voltaire was damn right: “We shall leave this world as foolish and as wicked as we found it on our arrival”.

    • Schengen has nothing to do with an influx of Romanians, as the non-Schengen status does not prevent EU citizens from moving around freely (just as I could move to Romania without any problems).

      The main problem with Romania’s accession to Schengen is the (perceived) corruption in the justice sector because Schengen is about much more than open borders. It’s about police and judicial cooperation, sharing of databases on investigations and so on. I seem to remember from last year’s presidential election that the perception of the Romanian police/justice system as corrupt is one which is widely shared within Romania.

      • Iosif Chișinevschi says:

        Do you think us idiots? Of course that Schengen has nothing to do with the “freedom of movement” (even though it makes the life of car and lorry drivers much easier and also reduces the transportation costs).

        But that fact is not understood by the public of Western countries which as usual is comprised mostly of idiots. They seem to believe that because Romania is not in Schengen Romanians need visas to enter Schengen countries. That is why the ruling politicians of those countries, who know very well what Schengen means, of course, pander to their ignorance and reject the admission of Romania just to give the impression that they are tough on immigration.

        The ONLY Schengen countries who oppose the admission of Romania and Bulgaria are France, Germany and Holland – countries where the government parties are seriously challenged by far-right anti-immigration parties.

        And you regurgitate the rhetoric used to justify their rejection… Do you think Andreas? At least from time to time…

      • Given the number of Romanians all over Europe (both in Schengen and non-Schengen states), I don’t think that many people believe that Romanians need visas for other EU countries.

        Like with many of your comments, your claim that everyone else is an idiot reflects more about yourself than about those whom you write about. Strange that these “everyone else in the world is an idiot, except me” commentators are usually the ones who hide behind fake names.

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